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'''Bangkok''' (กรุงเทพมหานคร, Krung Thep Maha Nakhon) is the capital of [[Thailand]]. It's a pretty big sprawling city yet it's quite easily managed once you get your head around it.
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'''Kuala Lumpur''' is the capital of [[Malaysia]].
  
== Hitching out ==
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== Hitchhiking out ==
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=== South towards [[Singapore]], [[Melaka]] ===
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There is a big toll gate south of the city which is an excellent hitchhiking place, but not too easy to reach.
  
=== To the South ===
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First, take the LRT to ''Sungai Besi''. The fare is 1.70 RM (July 2012). From there you have to walk south along the main road. You have to cross the rail tracks on your right, either by jumping the fences, which is illegal and somewhat dangerous (it's a high speed train line) or you can use the bridge which is quite a walk. <sup>[''in which direction?'']</sup>
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Walk further south, you will see a McDonalds on your right and then a little neighbourhood. The south end of the neighbourhood is right next to the toll gate. The motorway is elevated here, but there is a little hill with a little footpath that leads to a hole in the fence exactly at the parking place behind the toll gate from where you can start to hitch.
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It'll take you about 45 minutes to walk from the LRT station. There is probably a bus that stops a little closer to the toll gate.
  
Near by skytrain's station "Wongwian yai" there is a rail road station (13.724441, 100.491312). Frim this station yuo can take a train to the last stop "Maha Chai" (13.545823, 100.275569).
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It's very possible to get a direct lift to Singapore from this place.
There are a lot of trains from 5 a.m., price is 15 bat =0.5$.
 
  
=== To the North ===
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If you don't fancy a long walk or dicing with death/police by crossing rail tracks - this is a somewhat easier option. Take the LTR in the direction of Seremban and alight at Serdang.  Once you exit the station turn left, and cross the busy carriageway over the footbridge.  From here you could ask a taxi to take you to the toll station, or walk two minutes in the direction of traffic to the flyover.  It might seem a little nervy at first, but the traffic is slowing up the hill and into the bend, and there's more than enough room just before the apex for vehicles to pull in.  You're not quite on the right road yet for Singapore - but a sign saying highway E2 will get you a ride in no time - most probably dropped at the next toll station south. [[User:Looking for Stu|Looking for Stu]] was picked up in five minutes here with a Singapore sign and taken to the highway.
  
'''Option One''':
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Another save option and only a five minute walk is to take the LTR (metro/train) to the same stop as mentioned above: Serdang (In total 10 RM from Petronas Towers area, March 2020). Exit the train station through the gates. Than take the walking bridge that leads you to the other side of the rails, to a playground on the opposite of the trainstation. You can already see the highway E2 from the bridge, walk straight in the direction of the highway until you can't go further. Walk about 100 meters to the right and you'll find a small stairs where you can enter a rest station (R&R Serdang) at the E2 highway. From there you should easily get a ride in the direction of Melaka. It's also the right highway to Singapore. There are a couple of restaurants and toilets. In 2020 [[User:Worldhitchhiker|Worldhitchhiker]] did this and walked to the entrance of the highway (at the end of the rest area). Within five minutes three cars stopped, the third car took him in the direction of Melaka.
Highway 1 heading north starts at the Victory Monument. Two bus lines will take you a good way up the road: 39 and 510. Get off at the last stop 
 
[http://www.transitbangkok.com/stations/Bangkok%20Bus/Thamassat%20University%2C%20Rangsit%20Campus Thamassat University, Rangsit Campus] ( มหาวิทยาลัยธรรมศาสตร์ รังสิต). Bus 39 doesn't depart from the bus stop listing its number
 
  
'''Option Two''':
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=== North towards [[Thailand]] ===
From central rail road station (13.739418, 100.516694) you can take a train (every one or two hours, ฿15) to this station (14.385274, 100.598595) or sometimes the train will stop at the next station ''Map Pgra Chan'' (14.402356, 100.632265), but you can easily hitch-hike from the village to the main road.
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There are three places which you should consider in order to get out of the city towards north.
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==== Option 1 ====
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The first one is a Shell gas station right behind the toll gate (it is at the Plaza tol Jalan Duta). In order to get there, you can take the KTM commuter train and get off at the ''Segambut'' station. From there, walk about 1.5km south on the highway. Unfortunately it's very easy to get lost in this area, in the middle of several highways, large roads, huge concrete bridges, and exchanges, with very few, useless road signs. Choose this option only if you have a GPS with you.
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==== Option 2 ====
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The other place you can consider is a toll gate near the KTM station Sungai Buloh.
  
'''Option Three''':
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Get off the KTM commuter train at ''Sungai Buloh'', walk down the stairs and you will come to a motorway. Turn and walk left then walk across the overpass to the other side of the motorway. If you are facing the train station you just came from, then walk right along the side of motorway. Initially you will walk under a motorway bridge, keep walking straight along the side of the motorway. It will get quite narrow but walk on the inside of the barrier. To your right you will see a flood water and then the toll booth you are trying to get to. Continue walking straight, you will come to a plant nursery on the side of the road. Go through the gates but keep walking in the same direction as before. You will come to a small pipe opening with water. You can easily climb and jump the fence to get over then continue walking. You will come to an over bridge where you can walk along to the right which will put you on the road to the toll gate. Walk along the side of road towards the toll gate, walk past it, run across to the other side and be sure to stand on the shoulder of the lane heading straight through, which is the "labuan besar utara selatan" (big road from north/south)
First, for most convenience, take a taxi to ''Kasemrad Hospital'' (Thai: โรงพยาบาล เกษมราษฎร์ ประชาชื่น) in ''Bang Sue'' district. Alternatively, the closest metro station is ''Wong Sawang'' on the MRT's Purple Line, from where you'll have to get out of the station walking in a southeast direction, to the big intersection of ''Wong Sawang Rd''/''Ratchadaphisek Rd''. Turn left and follow ''Ratchadaphisek Rd'' until the intersection right at the canal/river, where you have to turn left again. After a few metres, you'll already see the hospital.
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==== Option 3 ====
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Take the KTM train heading north and get off at the last station called "Rawang", for just a couple of Ringgit (about 1$). You'll arrive at this town "Rawang" that is not on the highway but you can reach very easily, just a short 5 minutes walk, another main road going north (toward: Tapah, Ipoh, Cameron Highlands, Penang, Thailand border, etc.). That is probably not the perfect way to head north if you are in a rush, because you'll have to deal with short and indirect lifts until you get to Tapah (about 100km north of Rawang), but it's not a bad option, hitchhiking on that road is very easy.
  
Facing the hospital's main car park/entrance area, turn right and pass it on the right, entering ''Sai Sin Alley'' (you can see a 7-11 convenience store); it's the only road branching off before the expressway bridge. Follow the road until the crossroad and turn right on the second road, as the first one leads back to an intersection near the canal/river. From there, you'll already see a road running along the side of the expressway. Enter and follow this road; there's no pedestrian walkway so you'll first walk on the grass on the left hand side, then along the edge of the road.
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A very good option from the Rawang stop is to take the roughly 20 minute walk to the main North-South highway. Once you get off at the station, walk south along the main road (Jalan Rawang) and follow the off ramp on the right side of the road (traffic should be flowing in the opposite direction) up to Jalan Batu Arang. Follow this road, and take the right at the first lights onto Jalan Kuala Garing. Follow this road until you reach the second fork, and take a left (the road should be a relatively unused, beat-up path). You should see the highway ahead, and within 200 meters this road will take you through a narrow tunnel under the motorway. If it doesn't, you probably took a left at the wrong fork. After the tunnel, turn right and walk until you see the rest area...you will have to hop over the low barrier to get to the rest area. There, you will find a gas station, Starbucks, a hotel and other facilities...and most importantly, many cars heading North. Hitching a ride from there is very quick and easy.
  
Eventually, as the road rises, you'll see that it becomes the leftmost lane of the tollgate, where you can simply pass on the left hand side on the pedestrian walkway that starts shortly before the gate. Right behind the gate is a [https://goo.gl/maps/9PKjPbNi8sBJ5aMy9 covered walkway (link to Google Maps)], where a lot of people going North stop. When [[User:Raureif|Raureif]] arrived here with his girlfriend in January 2019, tollgate staff approached them five minutes after arrival; after learning they wanted to hitchhike to [[Phitsanulok]], the staff actually stopped cars just coming out of the tollgate and helped them with communication. Result: A ride after less than 10 minutes.
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=== East towards Kuantan and Kota Bharu===
  
== Eating and Sleeping ==
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Now you wanna get yourself to E8 which takes you to Bentong and then either to Kota Bharu or Kuantan. To do this take the KTM to Batu Caves and start walking east along road 28, you could either keep on walking east along road 28 until you reach the McD and Petronas station 3km away or you can make a sign that says Petronas or petrol station and hitch along road 28. Once you get to the McD you will get a ride within 5 minutes
  
There's a [https://www.google.com/maps/place/13%C2%B044'14.4%22N+100%C2%B033'40.0%22E/@13.7373313,100.5605528,177m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d13.73733!4d100.5611 Sikh temple] near Sukhumvit MRT station [13.73733N, 100.5611E] where you can get free food between 9am and 11.30am and 6/6.30pm to 9/9.30pm. To find it, locate the exit of the station that is in the North along Thanon Montri Rd., turn right and walk some hundred meters. The temple is on your right, you can recognise it by the Indians dressed in white that are hanging out on the square before it. Keep in mind that you should cover your head (also as a male) and also show your reverence by going into the room on your right and bowing to all the spiritual men and all the pictures of spiritual men in this room. When you leave it, you'll be rewarded with a sweet :-) afterwards just hang out in the main hall until somebody notices you; they'll know you're there for the food. After the meal you're expected to wash your dishes. In this temple, there's always people sleeping as well, so if you charm them they might let you crash with them for a couple of nights as well.
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== Sleep ==
  
== Public Transportation ==
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Sleeping on the streets, while not necessarily suggested, is entirely possible with no problems. Find a closed business or Monorel station and lay down for the night. This might not work in areas such as the Golden Triangle, but is viable in other areas. Simply be aware of the traffic. Choose a good area and you should be safe. Good places include near the ''river'' in Chinatown behind some buildings is a rather secluded area, the large area of parks (Deer Park, Hibiscus Park, Orchid Park - also good for stashing your things) close to the National Mosque west of Chinatown for being close to downtown. Outside the gates of the Batu Caves looking at the highway, turn right. You are heading toward the Monorel station. Once you reach a T-intersection, to your right are a series of benches with cover perfect for sleeping if you are on your way out of the city.
  
Bangkok has an extensive system of buses and metro lines (not to mention the countless taxis, mototaxis and tuk-tuks that plow the streets). The metro lines are pretty cheap if you're used to European standards, and at least the MRT can be blackridden. For every journey you buy a black plastic electronic coin that you hold against the entrance gate to open it for you and that you drop into the exit gate when you leave the system again. Note that the coin will notice if you travel for more stops than you paid for. Now for travelling free (a bit harder to do with a big backpack) you just slide yourself through the entrance/exit gates with another person. Ideally this will be somebody you know because you have to follow a person quite closely and unless it's rush hour the random Thai person unwittingly helping you might be freaked out by your sudden presence so closely behind them. The entrance gate will also notice when two people pass through it at once and will beep loudly, but if you just pretend nothing happened, you'll most likely be fine as according to actual experience :-) After all, you're a tourist and if anybody should stop you just talk to them confusedly in English. The exit gate doesn't make any special sounds when two people leave it at once.
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== Getting around ==
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Kuala Lumpur is a relatively small city and is perfectly walkable. Just make sure to not get lost.
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Kuala Lumpur has a fairly decent public transportation system comprised of trains and buses. You can get from KL Sentral to any major area of the city. The trains run from around 5AM to midnight.
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There is an entirely free system of buses known as GoKL ([http://www.gokl.com.my/]). These purple buses go to various malls and tourist attractions, but can successfully be used to traverse the majority of the city.
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== Stashing ==
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At KL Sentral there are many lockers available for use. There are two different kinds - the ones near the escalator toward the exit, close to the bathrooms and those on the way to the departure gate for the KL Ekspres to the airport near the escalator heading toward the mall. The lockers toward KL Ekspres are MYR 2 for 24 hours, including overnight, and MYR 2 for every hour over 24 hours. The lockers near the bathroom range in price from MYR 5 to 20 and do not allow for overnight storage.
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The parks to the west of Chinatown are potentially good for stashing things in bushes or trees.
  
There are SOME red buses throughout the city which are free. Before boarding a red bus, make sure you see the word 'free' (ฟรี) written somewhere on the front of the bus (sometimes there is a blue circle with the word in white; other times it is at the end of a sentence). Just hop on and hop off wherever you please. Bus 15 is good to see Khao San Rd, Siam Shopping district, Ratchadamri Road, Asiatique Market and everything in between.
 
  
 
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Revision as of 18:52, 14 September 2020

Kuala Lumpur is the capital of Malaysia.

Hitchhiking out

South towards Singapore, Melaka

There is a big toll gate south of the city which is an excellent hitchhiking place, but not too easy to reach.

First, take the LRT to Sungai Besi. The fare is 1.70 RM (July 2012). From there you have to walk south along the main road. You have to cross the rail tracks on your right, either by jumping the fences, which is illegal and somewhat dangerous (it's a high speed train line) or you can use the bridge which is quite a walk. [in which direction?] Walk further south, you will see a McDonalds on your right and then a little neighbourhood. The south end of the neighbourhood is right next to the toll gate. The motorway is elevated here, but there is a little hill with a little footpath that leads to a hole in the fence exactly at the parking place behind the toll gate from where you can start to hitch. It'll take you about 45 minutes to walk from the LRT station. There is probably a bus that stops a little closer to the toll gate.

It's very possible to get a direct lift to Singapore from this place.

If you don't fancy a long walk or dicing with death/police by crossing rail tracks - this is a somewhat easier option. Take the LTR in the direction of Seremban and alight at Serdang. Once you exit the station turn left, and cross the busy carriageway over the footbridge. From here you could ask a taxi to take you to the toll station, or walk two minutes in the direction of traffic to the flyover. It might seem a little nervy at first, but the traffic is slowing up the hill and into the bend, and there's more than enough room just before the apex for vehicles to pull in. You're not quite on the right road yet for Singapore - but a sign saying highway E2 will get you a ride in no time - most probably dropped at the next toll station south. Looking for Stu was picked up in five minutes here with a Singapore sign and taken to the highway.

Another save option and only a five minute walk is to take the LTR (metro/train) to the same stop as mentioned above: Serdang (In total 10 RM from Petronas Towers area, March 2020). Exit the train station through the gates. Than take the walking bridge that leads you to the other side of the rails, to a playground on the opposite of the trainstation. You can already see the highway E2 from the bridge, walk straight in the direction of the highway until you can't go further. Walk about 100 meters to the right and you'll find a small stairs where you can enter a rest station (R&R Serdang) at the E2 highway. From there you should easily get a ride in the direction of Melaka. It's also the right highway to Singapore. There are a couple of restaurants and toilets. In 2020 Worldhitchhiker did this and walked to the entrance of the highway (at the end of the rest area). Within five minutes three cars stopped, the third car took him in the direction of Melaka.

North towards Thailand

There are three places which you should consider in order to get out of the city towards north.

Option 1

The first one is a Shell gas station right behind the toll gate (it is at the Plaza tol Jalan Duta). In order to get there, you can take the KTM commuter train and get off at the Segambut station. From there, walk about 1.5km south on the highway. Unfortunately it's very easy to get lost in this area, in the middle of several highways, large roads, huge concrete bridges, and exchanges, with very few, useless road signs. Choose this option only if you have a GPS with you.

Option 2

The other place you can consider is a toll gate near the KTM station Sungai Buloh.

Get off the KTM commuter train at Sungai Buloh, walk down the stairs and you will come to a motorway. Turn and walk left then walk across the overpass to the other side of the motorway. If you are facing the train station you just came from, then walk right along the side of motorway. Initially you will walk under a motorway bridge, keep walking straight along the side of the motorway. It will get quite narrow but walk on the inside of the barrier. To your right you will see a flood water and then the toll booth you are trying to get to. Continue walking straight, you will come to a plant nursery on the side of the road. Go through the gates but keep walking in the same direction as before. You will come to a small pipe opening with water. You can easily climb and jump the fence to get over then continue walking. You will come to an over bridge where you can walk along to the right which will put you on the road to the toll gate. Walk along the side of road towards the toll gate, walk past it, run across to the other side and be sure to stand on the shoulder of the lane heading straight through, which is the "labuan besar utara selatan" (big road from north/south)

Option 3

Take the KTM train heading north and get off at the last station called "Rawang", for just a couple of Ringgit (about 1$). You'll arrive at this town "Rawang" that is not on the highway but you can reach very easily, just a short 5 minutes walk, another main road going north (toward: Tapah, Ipoh, Cameron Highlands, Penang, Thailand border, etc.). That is probably not the perfect way to head north if you are in a rush, because you'll have to deal with short and indirect lifts until you get to Tapah (about 100km north of Rawang), but it's not a bad option, hitchhiking on that road is very easy.

A very good option from the Rawang stop is to take the roughly 20 minute walk to the main North-South highway. Once you get off at the station, walk south along the main road (Jalan Rawang) and follow the off ramp on the right side of the road (traffic should be flowing in the opposite direction) up to Jalan Batu Arang. Follow this road, and take the right at the first lights onto Jalan Kuala Garing. Follow this road until you reach the second fork, and take a left (the road should be a relatively unused, beat-up path). You should see the highway ahead, and within 200 meters this road will take you through a narrow tunnel under the motorway. If it doesn't, you probably took a left at the wrong fork. After the tunnel, turn right and walk until you see the rest area...you will have to hop over the low barrier to get to the rest area. There, you will find a gas station, Starbucks, a hotel and other facilities...and most importantly, many cars heading North. Hitching a ride from there is very quick and easy.

East towards Kuantan and Kota Bharu

Now you wanna get yourself to E8 which takes you to Bentong and then either to Kota Bharu or Kuantan. To do this take the KTM to Batu Caves and start walking east along road 28, you could either keep on walking east along road 28 until you reach the McD and Petronas station 3km away or you can make a sign that says Petronas or petrol station and hitch along road 28. Once you get to the McD you will get a ride within 5 minutes

Sleep

Sleeping on the streets, while not necessarily suggested, is entirely possible with no problems. Find a closed business or Monorel station and lay down for the night. This might not work in areas such as the Golden Triangle, but is viable in other areas. Simply be aware of the traffic. Choose a good area and you should be safe. Good places include near the river in Chinatown behind some buildings is a rather secluded area, the large area of parks (Deer Park, Hibiscus Park, Orchid Park - also good for stashing your things) close to the National Mosque west of Chinatown for being close to downtown. Outside the gates of the Batu Caves looking at the highway, turn right. You are heading toward the Monorel station. Once you reach a T-intersection, to your right are a series of benches with cover perfect for sleeping if you are on your way out of the city.

Getting around

Kuala Lumpur is a relatively small city and is perfectly walkable. Just make sure to not get lost.

Kuala Lumpur has a fairly decent public transportation system comprised of trains and buses. You can get from KL Sentral to any major area of the city. The trains run from around 5AM to midnight.

There is an entirely free system of buses known as GoKL ([1]). These purple buses go to various malls and tourist attractions, but can successfully be used to traverse the majority of the city.

Stashing

At KL Sentral there are many lockers available for use. There are two different kinds - the ones near the escalator toward the exit, close to the bathrooms and those on the way to the departure gate for the KL Ekspres to the airport near the escalator heading toward the mall. The lockers toward KL Ekspres are MYR 2 for 24 hours, including overnight, and MYR 2 for every hour over 24 hours. The lockers near the bathroom range in price from MYR 5 to 20 and do not allow for overnight storage.

The parks to the west of Chinatown are potentially good for stashing things in bushes or trees.


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