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The '''Bay Area''' is an area in [[California]], containing '''San Francisco''', '''Oakland''', '''San Jose''' and other urban centres. It's fairly extended, with millions of inhabitants. There's a plethora of highways, and it's probably better to see the Area as one huge city, with "The City" (San Francisco) as its cultural centre.
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'''Kuala Lumpur''' is the capital of [[Malaysia]].
 
 
Note that because the Bay Area is so spread out, just getting around within it can cost significant cash (exacerbated by the distance-based fares charged by the BART and Caltrain rail systems, and the fragmentation of the bus system between different agencies in different parts of the area).  Getting from one end of the area to the other can cost $12 to $15.  But at least within SF itself it's not so bad, walking between most points in the city is pretty feasible and the $2 Muni bus fare covers unlimited rides for 2-3 hours.
 
  
 
== Hitchhiking out ==
 
== Hitchhiking out ==
=== Going North (US-101) ===
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=== South towards [[Singapore]], [[Melaka]] ===
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There is a big toll gate south of the city which is an excellent hitchhiking place, but not too easy to reach.
  
From San Francisco, the best place to hitch in this direction is on approach to Golden Gate Bridge from Lombard Street. Just before it reaches the Presidio, it makes an angular turn toward the bridge, and a couple blocks down that angular street (at Richardson and Lyon) is a large rarely-used bus stop area which makes a perfect hitching spot.
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First, take the LRT to ''Sungai Besi''. The fare is 1.70 RM (July 2012). From there you have to walk south along the main road. You have to cross the rail tracks on your right, either by jumping the fences, which is illegal and somewhat dangerous (it's a high speed train line) or you can use the bridge which is quite a walk. <sup>[''in which direction?'']</sup>
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Walk further south, you will see a McDonalds on your right and then a little neighbourhood. The south end of the neighbourhood is right next to the toll gate. The motorway is elevated here, but there is a little hill with a little footpath that leads to a hole in the fence exactly at the parking place behind the toll gate from where you can start to hitch.
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It'll take you about 45 minutes to walk from the LRT station. There is probably a bus that stops a little closer to the toll gate.
  
Immediately across the bridge is Marin County, which is mostly a rich suburban area where getting a ride is difficult, so if you're going up 101 it's best if you can get a ride from SF at least as far as Novato, and preferably beyond Santa Rosa. Between Novato and Petaluma is a stretch of non-freeway where you could hitch on the road, which is probably better than hitching on a ramp if you want a long ride north towards Humboldt/Oregon. (check the map for this spot) Alternately you can take Highway 1 from Marin County up the coast, but while very scenic this road has little traffic so be prepared for long waits.
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It's very possible to get a direct lift to Singapore from this place.
  
=== Going Northeast (I-80) ===
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If you don't fancy a long walk or dicing with death/police by crossing rail tracks - this is a somewhat easier option. Take the LTR in the direction of Seremban and alight at Serdang.  Once you exit the station turn left, and cross the busy carriageway over the footbridge.  From here you could ask a taxi to take you to the toll station, or walk two minutes in the direction of traffic to the flyover. It might seem a little nervy at first, but the traffic is slowing up the hill and into the bend, and there's more than enough room just before the apex for vehicles to pull in.  You're not quite on the right road yet for Singapore - but a sign saying highway E2 will get you a ride in no time - most probably dropped at the next toll station south. [[User:Looking for Stu|Looking for Stu]] was picked up in five minutes here with a Singapore sign and taken to the highway.
You can take the BART to '''Richmond''' (about $4.50), get off, walk East, where there is the on ramp to the I-80 East. See [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Richmond,+CA&ie=UTF8&z=15&ll=37.936312,-122.333064&spn=0.016044,0.05403&om=1&iwloc=A Google maps].
 
Waiting time at this spot was half an hour for a straight ride to Sacramento, April 2016.
 
  
You can also take BART to '''Pleasant Hill''' (about $5.25), there is an onramp next to the BART station, but the best onramp to hitchhike at in this area is about a mile north at Monument Blvd. It has a nice stop light on the on ramp itself. A sign saying "Sacramento" or wherever you are going helps.
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Another save option and only a five minute walk is to take the LTR (metro/train) to the same stop as mentioned above: Serdang (In total 10 RM from Petronas Towers area, March 2020). Exit the train station through the gates. Than take the walking bridge that leads you to the other side of the rails, to a playground on the opposite of the trainstation. You can already see the highway E2 from the bridge, walk straight in the direction of the highway until you can't go further. Walk about 100 meters to the right and you'll find a small stairs where you can enter a rest station (R&R Serdang) at the E2 highway. From there you should easily get a ride in the direction of Melaka. It's also the right highway to Singapore. There are a couple of restaurants and toilets. In 2020 [[User:Worldhitchhiker|Worldhitchhiker]] did this and walked to the entrance of the highway (at the end of the rest area). Within five minutes three cars stopped, the third car took him in the direction of Melaka.
  
There is a tradition of [http://sfcasualcarpool.com/ "casual carpools"] (known elsewhere as "slugging") across the Bay Bridge (check that website for further info). This is a good way to get out of the city along I-80 if you're leaving in the afternoon, but less useful in the morning as it's mainly for commuters. Some but not all drivers ask for a $1 contribution (still cheaper than BART).
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=== North towards [[Thailand]] ===
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There are three places which you should consider in order to get out of the city towards north.
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==== Option 1 ====
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The first one is a Shell gas station right behind the toll gate (it is at the Plaza tol Jalan Duta). In order to get there, you can take the KTM commuter train and get off at the ''Segambut'' station. From there, walk about 1.5km south on the highway. Unfortunately it's very easy to get lost in this area, in the middle of several highways, large roads, huge concrete bridges, and exchanges, with very few, useless road signs. Choose this option only if you have a GPS with you.
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==== Option 2 ====
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The other place you can consider is a toll gate near the KTM station Sungai Buloh.
  
You can try to follow I-80 to get to I-5 north, but if you're trying to go north you'll probably have an easier time on US-101, see above.
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Get off the KTM commuter train at ''Sungai Buloh'', walk down the stairs and you will come to a motorway. Turn and walk left then walk across the overpass to the other side of the motorway. If you are facing the train station you just came from, then walk right along the side of motorway. Initially you will walk under a motorway bridge, keep walking straight along the side of the motorway. It will get quite narrow but walk on the inside of the barrier. To your right you will see a flood water and then the toll booth you are trying to get to. Continue walking straight, you will come to a plant nursery on the side of the road. Go through the gates but keep walking in the same direction as before. You will come to a small pipe opening with water. You can easily climb and jump the fence to get over then continue walking. You will come to an over bridge where you can walk along to the right which will put you on the road to the toll gate. Walk along the side of road towards the toll gate, walk past it, run across to the other side and be sure to stand on the shoulder of the lane heading straight through, which is the "labuan besar utara selatan" (big road from north/south)
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==== Option 3 ====
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Take the KTM train heading north and get off at the last station called "Rawang", for just a couple of Ringgit (about 1$). You'll arrive at this town "Rawang" that is not on the highway but you can reach very easily, just a short 5 minutes walk, another main road going north (toward: Tapah, Ipoh, Cameron Highlands, Penang, Thailand border, etc.). That is probably not the perfect way to head north if you are in a rush, because you'll have to deal with short and indirect lifts until you get to Tapah (about 100km north of Rawang), but it's not a bad option, hitchhiking on that road is very easy.
  
=== Going South (Highway 1, towards [[Santa Cruz]] and scenic route towards [[Los Angeles]]) ===
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A very good option from the Rawang stop is to take the roughly 20 minute walk to the main North-South highway. Once you get off at the station, walk south along the main road (Jalan Rawang) and follow the off ramp on the right side of the road (traffic should be flowing in the opposite direction) up to Jalan Batu Arang. Follow this road, and take the right at the first lights onto Jalan Kuala Garing. Follow this road until you reach the second fork, and take a left (the road should be a relatively unused, beat-up path). You should see the highway ahead, and within 200 meters this road will take you through a narrow tunnel under the motorway. If it doesn't, you probably took a left at the wrong fork. After the tunnel, turn right and walk until you see the rest area...you will have to hop over the low barrier to get to the rest area. There, you will find a gas station, Starbucks, a hotel and other facilities...and most importantly, many cars heading North. Hitching a ride from there is very quick and easy.
  
HIGHWAY 1 CLOSED BETWEEN RAGGED POINT and GORDA : ''BE CAREFUL DUE TO MUD and ROCK SLIDES the Highway 1 is closed between RAGGED POINT and GORDA since May 2017 and should apparently REOPEN at the END of JULY 2018.'' you can still take the 101 from Santa Cruz till San Luis Obispo instead.
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=== East towards Kuantan and Kota Bharu===
  
In San Francisco, go to 19th Avenue, which is also Highway 1. Find a good traffic light while walking South. You can even start in the Golden Gate Park.  Along Great Highway (e.g. at the end of the L metro line) also works extremely well and may have less local traffic. These are both very good options if you don't want to pay for a bus/BART.
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Now you wanna get yourself to E8 which takes you to Bentong and then either to Kota Bharu or Kuantan. To do this take the KTM to Batu Caves and start walking east along road 28, you could either keep on walking east along road 28 until you reach the McD and Petronas station 3km away or you can make a sign that says Petronas or petrol station and hitch along road 28. Once you get to the McD you will get a ride within 5 minutes
  
You can also take SamTrans bus 110 for $2 from Daly City station (just south of the SF city line, reachable by BART or Muni bus) to Pacifica, and get off at Reina Del Mar and Hwy 1. Much more low key than dealing with the city, if you have the spare cash.  Once you're out of the city and dealing with smaller town traffic (Pacifica and south), getting picked up is a piece of cake.
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== Sleep ==
  
Continuing beyond Santa Cruz towards Los Angeles along Highway 1 will probably be slower than taking I-5 but this is considered one of the most scenic roads in California.
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Sleeping on the streets, while not necessarily suggested, is entirely possible with no problems. Find a closed business or Monorel station and lay down for the night. This might not work in areas such as the Golden Triangle, but is viable in other areas. Simply be aware of the traffic. Choose a good area and you should be safe. Good places include near the ''river'' in Chinatown behind some buildings is a rather secluded area, the large area of parks (Deer Park, Hibiscus Park, Orchid Park - also good for stashing your things) close to the National Mosque west of Chinatown for being close to downtown. Outside the gates of the Batu Caves looking at the highway, turn right. You are heading toward the Monorel station. Once you reach a T-intersection, to your right are a series of benches with cover perfect for sleeping if you are on your way out of the city.
  
If you're starting from closer to San Jose, you can also reach Santa Cruz by taking the VTA 68 bus from there south to Gilroy for $2 and hitchhiking out on 1st street, which is also highway 152 (west); this is a good hitching spot in the morning when people are headed from Gilroy to Santa Cruz to work. Though at that rate the 17 bus from San Jose all the way to Santa Cruz is $5 and takes a much more direct route.
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== Getting around ==
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Kuala Lumpur is a relatively small city and is perfectly walkable. Just make sure to not get lost.
  
=== Going South (I-5, fast route towards [[Los Angeles]] or [[Las Vegas]]) ===
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Kuala Lumpur has a fairly decent public transportation system comprised of trains and buses. You can get from KL Sentral to any major area of the city. The trains run from around 5AM to midnight.
  
'''Option 1'''<br>
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There is an entirely free system of buses known as GoKL ([http://www.gokl.com.my/]). These purple buses go to various malls and tourist attractions, but can successfully be used to traverse the majority of the city.
Take the I-5 if you want to get there fast. You might want to take the BART train to '''Dublin/Pleasanton''' (about $6). The BART station is located next to a freeway entrance which has a lot of traffic and a fairly decent spot to stop (after the 'freeway entrance' sign). You might have better luck if you walk further east to the following entrance which has less traffic, but a big bus stop to pull into a couple hundred meters before the entrance itself.  You're actually hitching onto I-580 here but it merges into I-5 further out; avoid getting a ride to Tracy or Stockton if you want to go south, it won't do you much good.  
 
  
[[User:Zenit|Zenit]] followed this advice in November 2017 and found it extremely hard to get out of Pleasanton. He spent the whole day hitching at various on-ramps in the area, and all he got for his pains was a short ride to Livermore, and more of the same there. He would certainly try option number two next time. Do ''not'' take a ride to Tracy or with people going to Modesto, stick it out in Livermore until somebody going south stops for you.
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== Stashing ==
  
There are a few dumpster-diveable supermarkets around, e.g. the Safeway and the Sprout's in Dublin (just west of I-680) and a Rancher's Market just west of the Santa Rita on-ramp.
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At KL Sentral there are many lockers available for use. There are two different kinds - the ones near the escalator toward the exit, close to the bathrooms and those on the way to the departure gate for the KL Ekspres to the airport near the escalator heading toward the mall. The lockers toward KL Ekspres are MYR 2 for 24 hours, including overnight, and MYR 2 for every hour over 24 hours. The lockers near the bathroom range in price from MYR 5 to 20 and do not allow for overnight storage.
  
'''Option 2'''<br>
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The parks to the west of Chinatown are potentially good for stashing things in bushes or trees.
This route worked really well for an anonymous user in 2009: Take Caltrain south to San Jose (about $9 from downtown SF, $7 from the BART transfer at Millbrae). Take VTA bus 68 to Gilroy from there, 1.5 hours, $2. Hitchhike east along the Pacheco Pass highway (152 east), which leads towards I-5; many cars here will be continuing south to Los Angeles on I-5.  If heading towards Las Vegas, get off I-5 at exit 257, to get onto highway 58. Take that East, avoid getting stuck in Bakersfield. 58 goes all the way through, past Mojave and Barstow, towards Vegas.
 
  
A note regarding Caltrain: tickets often aren't checked, but fare inspectors do come through sometimes (if you ride end-to-end you have maybe a 1/3 chance of seeing one) and if caught without a ticket the fine is nearly $300, so think twice before risking it. (What happens if you're a foreigner and you don't pay your fine?)
 
  
If you're considering taking a bus: booking months in advance you can sometimes find Megabus tickets from San Francisco to Los Angeles for as little as $1.50, though it's usually at least $10.  With less advance purchase, Megabus and Greyhound are typically in the $20-$40 range.
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Revision as of 18:52, 14 September 2020

Kuala Lumpur is the capital of Malaysia.

Hitchhiking out

South towards Singapore, Melaka

There is a big toll gate south of the city which is an excellent hitchhiking place, but not too easy to reach.

First, take the LRT to Sungai Besi. The fare is 1.70 RM (July 2012). From there you have to walk south along the main road. You have to cross the rail tracks on your right, either by jumping the fences, which is illegal and somewhat dangerous (it's a high speed train line) or you can use the bridge which is quite a walk. [in which direction?] Walk further south, you will see a McDonalds on your right and then a little neighbourhood. The south end of the neighbourhood is right next to the toll gate. The motorway is elevated here, but there is a little hill with a little footpath that leads to a hole in the fence exactly at the parking place behind the toll gate from where you can start to hitch. It'll take you about 45 minutes to walk from the LRT station. There is probably a bus that stops a little closer to the toll gate.

It's very possible to get a direct lift to Singapore from this place.

If you don't fancy a long walk or dicing with death/police by crossing rail tracks - this is a somewhat easier option. Take the LTR in the direction of Seremban and alight at Serdang. Once you exit the station turn left, and cross the busy carriageway over the footbridge. From here you could ask a taxi to take you to the toll station, or walk two minutes in the direction of traffic to the flyover. It might seem a little nervy at first, but the traffic is slowing up the hill and into the bend, and there's more than enough room just before the apex for vehicles to pull in. You're not quite on the right road yet for Singapore - but a sign saying highway E2 will get you a ride in no time - most probably dropped at the next toll station south. Looking for Stu was picked up in five minutes here with a Singapore sign and taken to the highway.

Another save option and only a five minute walk is to take the LTR (metro/train) to the same stop as mentioned above: Serdang (In total 10 RM from Petronas Towers area, March 2020). Exit the train station through the gates. Than take the walking bridge that leads you to the other side of the rails, to a playground on the opposite of the trainstation. You can already see the highway E2 from the bridge, walk straight in the direction of the highway until you can't go further. Walk about 100 meters to the right and you'll find a small stairs where you can enter a rest station (R&R Serdang) at the E2 highway. From there you should easily get a ride in the direction of Melaka. It's also the right highway to Singapore. There are a couple of restaurants and toilets. In 2020 Worldhitchhiker did this and walked to the entrance of the highway (at the end of the rest area). Within five minutes three cars stopped, the third car took him in the direction of Melaka.

North towards Thailand

There are three places which you should consider in order to get out of the city towards north.

Option 1

The first one is a Shell gas station right behind the toll gate (it is at the Plaza tol Jalan Duta). In order to get there, you can take the KTM commuter train and get off at the Segambut station. From there, walk about 1.5km south on the highway. Unfortunately it's very easy to get lost in this area, in the middle of several highways, large roads, huge concrete bridges, and exchanges, with very few, useless road signs. Choose this option only if you have a GPS with you.

Option 2

The other place you can consider is a toll gate near the KTM station Sungai Buloh.

Get off the KTM commuter train at Sungai Buloh, walk down the stairs and you will come to a motorway. Turn and walk left then walk across the overpass to the other side of the motorway. If you are facing the train station you just came from, then walk right along the side of motorway. Initially you will walk under a motorway bridge, keep walking straight along the side of the motorway. It will get quite narrow but walk on the inside of the barrier. To your right you will see a flood water and then the toll booth you are trying to get to. Continue walking straight, you will come to a plant nursery on the side of the road. Go through the gates but keep walking in the same direction as before. You will come to a small pipe opening with water. You can easily climb and jump the fence to get over then continue walking. You will come to an over bridge where you can walk along to the right which will put you on the road to the toll gate. Walk along the side of road towards the toll gate, walk past it, run across to the other side and be sure to stand on the shoulder of the lane heading straight through, which is the "labuan besar utara selatan" (big road from north/south)

Option 3

Take the KTM train heading north and get off at the last station called "Rawang", for just a couple of Ringgit (about 1$). You'll arrive at this town "Rawang" that is not on the highway but you can reach very easily, just a short 5 minutes walk, another main road going north (toward: Tapah, Ipoh, Cameron Highlands, Penang, Thailand border, etc.). That is probably not the perfect way to head north if you are in a rush, because you'll have to deal with short and indirect lifts until you get to Tapah (about 100km north of Rawang), but it's not a bad option, hitchhiking on that road is very easy.

A very good option from the Rawang stop is to take the roughly 20 minute walk to the main North-South highway. Once you get off at the station, walk south along the main road (Jalan Rawang) and follow the off ramp on the right side of the road (traffic should be flowing in the opposite direction) up to Jalan Batu Arang. Follow this road, and take the right at the first lights onto Jalan Kuala Garing. Follow this road until you reach the second fork, and take a left (the road should be a relatively unused, beat-up path). You should see the highway ahead, and within 200 meters this road will take you through a narrow tunnel under the motorway. If it doesn't, you probably took a left at the wrong fork. After the tunnel, turn right and walk until you see the rest area...you will have to hop over the low barrier to get to the rest area. There, you will find a gas station, Starbucks, a hotel and other facilities...and most importantly, many cars heading North. Hitching a ride from there is very quick and easy.

East towards Kuantan and Kota Bharu

Now you wanna get yourself to E8 which takes you to Bentong and then either to Kota Bharu or Kuantan. To do this take the KTM to Batu Caves and start walking east along road 28, you could either keep on walking east along road 28 until you reach the McD and Petronas station 3km away or you can make a sign that says Petronas or petrol station and hitch along road 28. Once you get to the McD you will get a ride within 5 minutes

Sleep

Sleeping on the streets, while not necessarily suggested, is entirely possible with no problems. Find a closed business or Monorel station and lay down for the night. This might not work in areas such as the Golden Triangle, but is viable in other areas. Simply be aware of the traffic. Choose a good area and you should be safe. Good places include near the river in Chinatown behind some buildings is a rather secluded area, the large area of parks (Deer Park, Hibiscus Park, Orchid Park - also good for stashing your things) close to the National Mosque west of Chinatown for being close to downtown. Outside the gates of the Batu Caves looking at the highway, turn right. You are heading toward the Monorel station. Once you reach a T-intersection, to your right are a series of benches with cover perfect for sleeping if you are on your way out of the city.

Getting around

Kuala Lumpur is a relatively small city and is perfectly walkable. Just make sure to not get lost.

Kuala Lumpur has a fairly decent public transportation system comprised of trains and buses. You can get from KL Sentral to any major area of the city. The trains run from around 5AM to midnight.

There is an entirely free system of buses known as GoKL ([1]). These purple buses go to various malls and tourist attractions, but can successfully be used to traverse the majority of the city.

Stashing

At KL Sentral there are many lockers available for use. There are two different kinds - the ones near the escalator toward the exit, close to the bathrooms and those on the way to the departure gate for the KL Ekspres to the airport near the escalator heading toward the mall. The lockers toward KL Ekspres are MYR 2 for 24 hours, including overnight, and MYR 2 for every hour over 24 hours. The lockers near the bathroom range in price from MYR 5 to 20 and do not allow for overnight storage.

The parks to the west of Chinatown are potentially good for stashing things in bushes or trees.


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