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'''New York City''' is the largest city in [[New York State]]. Generally, when travellers say they are from or going toward "New York", they are referring to this city, which is made up of five boroughs: Manhattan (an island), Brooklyn, Queens (both located on the western end of Long Island), Staten Island, and The Bronx (on the North American mainland).
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|state = Odessa Oblast
 
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|pop = 1,000,000
 
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|motorways = [[M05 (Ukraine)|M05]],[[M14 (Ukraine)|M14]],[[M15 (Ukraine)|M15]],[[M16 (Ukraine)|M16]]
 
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'''Odessa''' or '''Odesa''' (Ukrainian: Одеса; Russian: Одесса; Romanian: Odesa; Greek: Οδησσός; Yiddish: אדעס ) is located in southern [[Ukraine]]. The city is a major seaport located on the shore of the Black Sea and the fourth largest city in Ukraine with a population of 1,000,000.
 
  
On [[789]], 7 August of 2009, the [[789]] Festival took place in '''Odessa'''. A hundred hitchhikers from all over the world gathered in Odessa to promote hitchhiking.
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One does not simply walk out of New York City.  
  
== Hitchhiking out ==
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== Hitchhiking ==
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Hitchhiking is illegal in New York City as well as in the neighboring state of New Jersey; enforcement varies.
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=== Heading North (I-87) ===
  
=== North to [[Uman]], [[Kyiv|Kiev]] (M05/E95) ===
 
  
Take trolleybus #8 or small yellow bus #208 in front of the Railway Station (McD's). Take direction to the Central Autostation, exit the trolleybus on station Khimichna (остановка Химическая or зупинка Хiмiчна) and walk right. You'll see main street Grushevskogo (Грушевского). Cross this street and turn left. You will see your spot. Best is to hitchhike from there with sign "КИЕВ" (Kyiv)
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Advice: Don't get stuck in [[Albany (New York)|Albany]]. There is a fairly large service area (New Baltimore Travel Plaza) on the Thruway just before Albany, so getting off there is preferable(technically illegal to hitch on a rest area connected to the Thruway, but you can ask around
  
Take bus 84 from in front of the Central Railway Station. Ask the ticket seller for the stop '''Kievskaya trasa'''. From near the stop you can see a road signposted for Kiev.
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Subway out on line 2 to the last stop, and then walked to the commuter train at Mount Vernon East, direction Stamford, and got off at Rye (fare $3.50).  A cheaper option is to ride the subway to Fordham Rd on the B/D, where if you have a Metrocard you can transfer for free from the subway to the Bee-Line #61 bus which runs to Rye and beyond. From Rye you can start hitching on the onramp of the I-287.  
  
Participants of the 789 Festival found this a challenging direction to hitchhike, with waiting times typically around 3-5 hours. The road soon becomes a modern motorway where cars are moving far too quickly to stop, so you cannot be easily dropped off and continue onwards. Try to get a lift all the way to your destination.
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Its able to get a ride north from the ramps where Jerome Ave joins I-87 in the northern Bronx, a bit north of the last stop of the 4 train. You may wait longer
  
A good '''alternative option''' seems to hitch from the '''WOG service station''' right at the motorway to Kyiv, located about 1 km from Khimichna/Grushevskogo. We caught a ride straight to Kyiv from there in the middle of a summer night. The service station was pretty busy even at that time, offering all kinds of amenities like free wi-fi and toilets.
 
  
=== North-West to [[Chişinău|Chisinau]], South-West to [[Romania]] (M15/E87) ===
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You can go to Jerome Avenue, however there's a Dunkin' Donuts and a gas station right off Jerome Avenur on the I-87 and asking around was no problem.
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=== Heading Northeast (I-95, toward [[New Haven]], [[Providence]], and [[Boston]]) ===
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I-95 North runs along the Eastern coast of [[New York State]] and [[Connecticut]] at this point. Leaving New York City can be very complicated, especially getting past the Bronx, a borough full of "dangerous" low-income neighborhoods, especially in the southern half of the borough. ([http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ny/bronx/crime/ Crime rates] in the Bronx are 2-3 times higher than the NYC and US averages.)
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* [[User:Amylin|amylin]] recommends taking the #2 subway train out to the last stop, Wakefield-241st St and walking about a mile from there to the [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=1145104329767828159,40.903428,-73.850375%3B17266531610081419525,40.912360,-73.832180&time=&date=&ttype=&saddr=241st+St+-+Wakefield+Station+%4040.903428,-73.850375&daddr=40.912118,-73.832245&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=15&sll=40.909977,-73.837309&sspn=0.014724,0.033431&ie=UTF8&z=15&om=1 Mount Vernon East Metro-North station], where you can take a local train a bit farther afield. To hitchhike to Providence, [[Rhode Island]] on a cold winter's day, she took the $5.50 train to [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=325+Heights+Rd,+Darien,+CT+06820&sll=41.224118,-72.559204&sspn=1.875734,4.279175&ie=UTF8&ll=41.069322,-73.492999&spn=0.007344,0.016716&z=16&om=1 Noroton Heights] in Darien, CT, usually with changing trains in Stamford, and officially started from there. She recommends this route for hitchhiking North, especially if you don't want to spend a lot of money getting out of the city or time waiting outside. In Noroton Heights [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=325+Heights+Rd,+Darien,+CT+06820&sll=41.224118,-72.559204&sspn=1.875734,4.279175&ie=UTF8&ll=41.069322,-73.492999&spn=0.007344,0.016716&z=16&om=1 there is an on-ramp about 1km from the train station]. There is a steady flow of cars who mostly have to stop before entering the on-ramp, and the area is suitable for low-key camping out. A local police patrol car passed her while she stood with her thumb out but did not harass her. (Whereas, if you take the Metro-North train from Grand Central Station in Midtown Manhattan, you'll pay more than double for the ticket, plus the $2.75 subway fare to get to the station. So, if you're already on the subway, you might as well get the most of your $2.75 (or free swipe, see below) and take it as far out as possible.) [[User:Zenit|Zenit]] followed these instructions in July 2010 and highly recommends them as well. Also on the train his ticket was never checked. Got a ride within 5-10 minutes at night using this around May 2018.
  
On the M15 just after the Dva Stolba roundabout. It's a huge roundabout with a monument in the middle, called "dva stolba" that people are familiar with by name. It is a busy bus stop for Marszrutkas where locals also hitch rides. You may want to go up the road a few meters to get away from the crowd. You can also take M16 to Chisnau (next road just to the north), but be aware that you will pass through [[Transnistria]].
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* [[User:Stove|Stove]] recommends taking the "B" or "D" subway to Fordham, and walking the six blocks south ("right") on Fordham Rd to Metro North. This requires less walking, and the New Haven Line trains stop here more frequently on their way north. Fares from Fordham to Noroton Heights are the same as from Mount Vernon East, and it is much easier/quicker to access.
  
Getting there:
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* Poster "Fruupp" <!-- on [http://www.digihitch.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=7934 this digihitch thread] --> suggests hitching along Bruckner Blvd near Brook Ave in the Bronx, reachable via the 6 subway train.  (This section of Bruckner Blvd is used heavily by cars trying to get from Manhattan to the northeast-bound Bruckner Expressway without paying a toll.)  Drivers may be less likely to stop in such urban surroundings, and you should exercise caution as the levels of both crime and police presence in this neighborhood are relatively high, but this is at least one option that does not require a commuter train.
Take Bus 128 or Marshutka 233 west from Velyka Arnauts'ka St in the center to Dva Stolba<br>
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Walk to the other side of the circle, 2nd left (there is a sign)<br>
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[[File:GWBplaza.jpg|thumb|right|150px|Cars waiting for hitchhikers to take across the GWB]]
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* There is a bus stop at the New Jersey end of the George Washington Bridge (below Lemoine Ave) where drivers pick up passengers to try to qualify for the carpool discount on the bridge toll, and hitchhiking at this location is [http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2012/06/21/chris-christie-reportedly-asks-police-to-quit-ticketing-gw-bridge-carpoolers/ reportedly considered legal].  The vast majority of drivers will just be crossing the bridge to reach Manhattan, but as this is the main freeway route for traffic from the south crossing New York City towards Connecticut and beyond, looking for longer rides here may be worth a shot.  It's about a 3km walk from 175 St on the A subway train to the New Jersey end of the bridge.
Take bus #201 from the main tram stop next between the central station and the big market. Get of at the bus stop '''ПОСТ ДАЇ''' (''post daji'').<br>
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If heading towards [[Vermont]], take the Metro North all the way to Danbury, CT (Change in E. Norwalk).  The fare is $8 from Mount Vernon East ($9 from Fordham).  This puts one right on Rt 7, which winds through the hills of Massachusetts and Vermont all the way to the Canadian border.  [[User:Stove|Stove]] routinely takes this route, and can easily make it to Burlington starting from Danbury in the morning.
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=== Heading West (I-80) ===
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If you are trying to get to [[Pennsylvania]] or points West, your best bet is to take NJ Transit to [[Mt. Olive]], [[New Jersey]] ($14.75 from New York Penn Station, or $9 (plus $2.75 for PATH) if you take PATH to Newark, walk to Broad St Station and catch NJT there). This will get you out of the suburbs, and thus increase the likelihood of getting a long-distance ride. From the Mt. Olive train station, you can walk to the [[on-ramp]] of I-80. Be advised that hitchhiking is illegal just about everywhere in New Jersey, including shoulders and on-ramps, so use caution.
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It may also be possible to get a ride from the westbound Lemoine Ave bus stop at the end of the GWB (opposite the eastbound one described under "Northeast" above).
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=== Heading West/Southwest (I-78) ===
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Interstate I-78 is a road that more or less comes from NYC, passes through New Jersey and leads towards Harrisburg.
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Since New Jersey might be a little bit tricky and hitchhiking is kind of outlawed there, it might be best to take a bus ride.  For $25.80 you can get to [[Allentown]] in [[Pennsylvania]], hence bypassing New Jersey.
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The bus leaves New York at the Port Authority bus terminal. In Allentown you can walk or hitchhike (within the city) to the entrance of the I-78.  (Of course, if you can book in advance then for that price you can get a Megabus all the way to Pittsburgh or beyond.) You can also take the Bieber Bus for about $27 to one of several towns (Hellertown, Wescosville) along the highway and thus avoid the long walk from the Allentown bus terminal to the highway. You may need to buy your ticket online in advance. If you do take the Bieber bus to Wescosville, don't bother with the Wescosville travel plaza if you're headed west - i know it looks promising but all traffic out of there is headed south to philadelphia. Ask at gas stations or thumb it on the ramps.
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Another option is to take a NJ Transit train to [[Annandale]] ($15 from Penn Station, $11 from Newark) and hitch the on-ramp.  [[user:Dr.Keith|Keith]] was lucky enough to get a ride from there in just a half hour.
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=== Heading Southwest (I-95 towards [[Philadelphia, Pennsylvania|Philadelphia]] and [[Washington D.C.]]) ===
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Between the heavy suburban development along most of this corridor and the laws on hitchhiking in New Jersey and New York City, there aren't many great options.  If you're particularly bold/willing to risk police trouble you could try either end of the Holland Tunnel.  It may also be possible to get a ride from the westbound Lemoine Ave bus stop at the end of the GWB (opposite the eastbound one described under "Northeast" above).
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If you decide to give up and pay: Booking far in advance, you can get a Megabus all the way to DC for as little as $1.50.  Without advance booking, the cheapest legal way across New Jersey is probably a Chinatown bus to Philadelphia for around $12 (see gotobus.com for current Chinatown bus info; the walkup cash fare is usually the same as online).
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== Subway ==
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You're likely to need a subway ride at the start of any attempt to hitchhike out of NYC (and probably to get around while there as well).  Many subway riders have unlimited-ride Metrocards, and since a card is only required to enter the subway system (not to exit), it's possible to get people with unlimited-ride cards who are leaving the system to swipe you in for free (as there is no additional cost to them).  At busier stations, just stand outside the turnstiles and politely ask exiting riders if they'll swipe you in. It's also possible to swipe in for free by waiting in the emergency door and ask someone from the other side to open it. Many people use the emergency door to jump in for free, specially families with kids, only the parents have card and once they are inside they open the emergency door for their children.  See [http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/01/free_swipe.php this article] for a discussion of the "free swipes" phenomenon.
  
 
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Revision as of 16:36, 14 September 2020

New York City is the largest city in New York State. Generally, when travellers say they are from or going toward "New York", they are referring to this city, which is made up of five boroughs: Manhattan (an island), Brooklyn, Queens (both located on the western end of Long Island), Staten Island, and The Bronx (on the North American mainland).

One does not simply walk out of New York City.

Hitchhiking

Hitchhiking is illegal in New York City as well as in the neighboring state of New Jersey; enforcement varies.

Heading North (I-87)

Advice: Don't get stuck in Albany. There is a fairly large service area (New Baltimore Travel Plaza) on the Thruway just before Albany, so getting off there is preferable(technically illegal to hitch on a rest area connected to the Thruway, but you can ask around

Subway out on line 2 to the last stop, and then walked to the commuter train at Mount Vernon East, direction Stamford, and got off at Rye (fare $3.50). A cheaper option is to ride the subway to Fordham Rd on the B/D, where if you have a Metrocard you can transfer for free from the subway to the Bee-Line #61 bus which runs to Rye and beyond. From Rye you can start hitching on the onramp of the I-287.

Its able to get a ride north from the ramps where Jerome Ave joins I-87 in the northern Bronx, a bit north of the last stop of the 4 train. You may wait longer


You can go to Jerome Avenue, however there's a Dunkin' Donuts and a gas station right off Jerome Avenur on the I-87 and asking around was no problem.

Heading Northeast (I-95, toward New Haven, Providence, and Boston)

I-95 North runs along the Eastern coast of New York State and Connecticut at this point. Leaving New York City can be very complicated, especially getting past the Bronx, a borough full of "dangerous" low-income neighborhoods, especially in the southern half of the borough. (Crime rates in the Bronx are 2-3 times higher than the NYC and US averages.)

  • amylin recommends taking the #2 subway train out to the last stop, Wakefield-241st St and walking about a mile from there to the Mount Vernon East Metro-North station, where you can take a local train a bit farther afield. To hitchhike to Providence, Rhode Island on a cold winter's day, she took the $5.50 train to Noroton Heights in Darien, CT, usually with changing trains in Stamford, and officially started from there. She recommends this route for hitchhiking North, especially if you don't want to spend a lot of money getting out of the city or time waiting outside. In Noroton Heights there is an on-ramp about 1km from the train station. There is a steady flow of cars who mostly have to stop before entering the on-ramp, and the area is suitable for low-key camping out. A local police patrol car passed her while she stood with her thumb out but did not harass her. (Whereas, if you take the Metro-North train from Grand Central Station in Midtown Manhattan, you'll pay more than double for the ticket, plus the $2.75 subway fare to get to the station. So, if you're already on the subway, you might as well get the most of your $2.75 (or free swipe, see below) and take it as far out as possible.) Zenit followed these instructions in July 2010 and highly recommends them as well. Also on the train his ticket was never checked. Got a ride within 5-10 minutes at night using this around May 2018.
  • Stove recommends taking the "B" or "D" subway to Fordham, and walking the six blocks south ("right") on Fordham Rd to Metro North. This requires less walking, and the New Haven Line trains stop here more frequently on their way north. Fares from Fordham to Noroton Heights are the same as from Mount Vernon East, and it is much easier/quicker to access.
  • Poster "Fruupp" suggests hitching along Bruckner Blvd near Brook Ave in the Bronx, reachable via the 6 subway train. (This section of Bruckner Blvd is used heavily by cars trying to get from Manhattan to the northeast-bound Bruckner Expressway without paying a toll.) Drivers may be less likely to stop in such urban surroundings, and you should exercise caution as the levels of both crime and police presence in this neighborhood are relatively high, but this is at least one option that does not require a commuter train.
Cars waiting for hitchhikers to take across the GWB
  • There is a bus stop at the New Jersey end of the George Washington Bridge (below Lemoine Ave) where drivers pick up passengers to try to qualify for the carpool discount on the bridge toll, and hitchhiking at this location is reportedly considered legal. The vast majority of drivers will just be crossing the bridge to reach Manhattan, but as this is the main freeway route for traffic from the south crossing New York City towards Connecticut and beyond, looking for longer rides here may be worth a shot. It's about a 3km walk from 175 St on the A subway train to the New Jersey end of the bridge.

If heading towards Vermont, take the Metro North all the way to Danbury, CT (Change in E. Norwalk). The fare is $8 from Mount Vernon East ($9 from Fordham). This puts one right on Rt 7, which winds through the hills of Massachusetts and Vermont all the way to the Canadian border. Stove routinely takes this route, and can easily make it to Burlington starting from Danbury in the morning.

Heading West (I-80)

If you are trying to get to Pennsylvania or points West, your best bet is to take NJ Transit to Mt. Olive, New Jersey ($14.75 from New York Penn Station, or $9 (plus $2.75 for PATH) if you take PATH to Newark, walk to Broad St Station and catch NJT there). This will get you out of the suburbs, and thus increase the likelihood of getting a long-distance ride. From the Mt. Olive train station, you can walk to the on-ramp of I-80. Be advised that hitchhiking is illegal just about everywhere in New Jersey, including shoulders and on-ramps, so use caution.

It may also be possible to get a ride from the westbound Lemoine Ave bus stop at the end of the GWB (opposite the eastbound one described under "Northeast" above).

Heading West/Southwest (I-78)

Interstate I-78 is a road that more or less comes from NYC, passes through New Jersey and leads towards Harrisburg. Since New Jersey might be a little bit tricky and hitchhiking is kind of outlawed there, it might be best to take a bus ride. For $25.80 you can get to Allentown in Pennsylvania, hence bypassing New Jersey. The bus leaves New York at the Port Authority bus terminal. In Allentown you can walk or hitchhike (within the city) to the entrance of the I-78. (Of course, if you can book in advance then for that price you can get a Megabus all the way to Pittsburgh or beyond.) You can also take the Bieber Bus for about $27 to one of several towns (Hellertown, Wescosville) along the highway and thus avoid the long walk from the Allentown bus terminal to the highway. You may need to buy your ticket online in advance. If you do take the Bieber bus to Wescosville, don't bother with the Wescosville travel plaza if you're headed west - i know it looks promising but all traffic out of there is headed south to philadelphia. Ask at gas stations or thumb it on the ramps.

Another option is to take a NJ Transit train to Annandale ($15 from Penn Station, $11 from Newark) and hitch the on-ramp. Keith was lucky enough to get a ride from there in just a half hour.

Heading Southwest (I-95 towards Philadelphia and Washington D.C.)

Between the heavy suburban development along most of this corridor and the laws on hitchhiking in New Jersey and New York City, there aren't many great options. If you're particularly bold/willing to risk police trouble you could try either end of the Holland Tunnel. It may also be possible to get a ride from the westbound Lemoine Ave bus stop at the end of the GWB (opposite the eastbound one described under "Northeast" above).

If you decide to give up and pay: Booking far in advance, you can get a Megabus all the way to DC for as little as $1.50. Without advance booking, the cheapest legal way across New Jersey is probably a Chinatown bus to Philadelphia for around $12 (see gotobus.com for current Chinatown bus info; the walkup cash fare is usually the same as online).

Subway

You're likely to need a subway ride at the start of any attempt to hitchhike out of NYC (and probably to get around while there as well). Many subway riders have unlimited-ride Metrocards, and since a card is only required to enter the subway system (not to exit), it's possible to get people with unlimited-ride cards who are leaving the system to swipe you in for free (as there is no additional cost to them). At busier stations, just stand outside the turnstiles and politely ask exiting riders if they'll swipe you in. It's also possible to swipe in for free by waiting in the emergency door and ask someone from the other side to open it. Many people use the emergency door to jump in for free, specially families with kids, only the parents have card and once they are inside they open the emergency door for their children. See this article for a discussion of the "free swipes" phenomenon.

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